Was ist für dich neuwertig? Wenig Betriebsdauer? Oder wenig alt? Was für ein Interface solls sein? SCSI oder SAS? Fibre Channel? Oder lieber IDE oder SATA?
Ich hätte (wie in einem anderen Thread schon erwähnt) zwei 1,5TB große WD Caviar Green hier. Sind zwei WD15EARS von September 2010. Außerdem noch zwei 500GB große WD RE3 (WD5002ABYS) von September 2008 und zwei 500GB große Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000.C (HDS721050CLA362) von Oktober 2009. Die RE3 und die Hitachis sind aber 24/7-Platten, sprich für Dauerbetrieb ausgelegt.
«Ich verstehe Ihre Frage so: Dass es Menschen gibt, die wünschen, dass ein solches OS als "Retro-OS" bezeichnet wird, ja? Mir ist nicht bekannt, dass solche Absichten bestehen, da HP-UX 9.x einfach ein altes OS ist. Niemand hat die Absicht, ein "Retro-OS" zu bauen.» Xaar, 2014
(16.12.2012 20:33)Xaar schrieb: Was ist für dich neuwertig? Wenig Betriebsdauer? Oder wenig alt? Was für ein Interface solls sein? SCSI oder SAS? Fibre Channel? Oder lieber IDE oder SATA?
Ich hätte (wie in einem anderen Thread schon erwähnt) zwei 1,5TB große WD Caviar Green hier. Sind zwei WD15EARS von September 2010. Außerdem noch zwei 500GB große WD RE3 (WD5002ABYS) von September 2008 und zwei 500GB große Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000.C (HDS721050CLA362) von Oktober 2009. Die RE3 und die Hitachis sind aber 24/7-Platten, sprich für Dauerbetrieb ausgelegt.
Ich kann dir gern die Betriebsdauern/SMART-Daten raussuchen, wenn du magst
Achja: und obs 2,5" oder 3,5" sein soll, wär vllt. auch wichtig
«Ich verstehe Ihre Frage so: Dass es Menschen gibt, die wünschen, dass ein solches OS als "Retro-OS" bezeichnet wird, ja? Mir ist nicht bekannt, dass solche Absichten bestehen, da HP-UX 9.x einfach ein altes OS ist. Niemand hat die Absicht, ein "Retro-OS" zu bauen.» Xaar, 2014
(16.12.2012 20:40)Xaar schrieb: Ich kann dir gern die Betriebsdauern/SMART-Daten raussuchen, wenn du magst
Achja: und obs 2,5" oder 3,5" sein soll, wär vllt. auch wichtig
3,5"
Außerdem noch zwei 500GB große WD RE3 (WD5002ABYS) von September 2008 und zwei 500GB große Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000.C (HDS721050CLA362) von Oktober 2009
Ich schau die Platten mir gleich mal an und schick dir die Ausgaben vom smartctl
«Ich verstehe Ihre Frage so: Dass es Menschen gibt, die wünschen, dass ein solches OS als "Retro-OS" bezeichnet wird, ja? Mir ist nicht bekannt, dass solche Absichten bestehen, da HP-UX 9.x einfach ein altes OS ist. Niemand hat die Absicht, ein "Retro-OS" zu bauen.» Xaar, 2014
Sooo, ich hab mal geäugt, hier sind die Ausgaben vom smartctl (unter Windows krieg ich mit HDTune nix angezeigt o.O):
HDS721050CLA362 #1:
Code:
smartctl 5.41 2011-03-16 r3296 [x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu-2.6.38-grml64] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-11 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net
=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family: Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000.C
Device Model: Hitachi HDS721050CLA362
Serial Number: JP1521HN04TNJA
Firmware Version: JP2OA25C
User Capacity: 500.103.634.432 bytes
Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is: 8
ATA Standard is: ATA-8-ACS revision 4
Local Time is: Sun Dec 16 22:02:04 2012 CET
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled
=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status: (0x80) Offline data collection activity
was never started.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever
been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: ( 4679) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
No Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 78) minutes.
SCT capabilities: (0x003d) SCT Status supported.
SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
SCT Feature Control supported.
SCT Data Table supported.
SMART Error Log Version: 1
ATA Error Count: 5
CR = Command Register [HEX]
FR = Features Register [HEX]
SC = Sector Count Register [HEX]
SN = Sector Number Register [HEX]
CL = Cylinder Low Register [HEX]
CH = Cylinder High Register [HEX]
DH = Device/Head Register [HEX]
DC = Device Command Register [HEX]
ER = Error register [HEX]
ST = Status register [HEX]
Powered_Up_Time is measured from power on, and printed as
DDd+hh:mm:SS.sss where DD=days, hh=hours, mm=minutes,
SS=sec, and sss=millisec. It "wraps" after 49.710 days.
Error 5 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 4222 hours (175 days + 22 hours)
When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.
After command completion occurred, registers were:
ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
-- -- -- -- -- -- --
84 51 20 a0 0c 00 00 Error: ICRC, ABRT 32 sectors at LBA = 0x00000ca0 = 3232
Error 4 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 4222 hours (175 days + 22 hours)
When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.
After command completion occurred, registers were:
ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
-- -- -- -- -- -- --
84 51 00 80 0b 00 00 Error: ICRC, ABRT at LBA = 0x00000b80 = 2944
Error 3 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 4222 hours (175 days + 22 hours)
When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.
After command completion occurred, registers were:
ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
-- -- -- -- -- -- --
84 51 30 10 09 00 00 Error: ICRC, ABRT 48 sectors at LBA = 0x00000910 = 2320
Error 2 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 4222 hours (175 days + 22 hours)
When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.
After command completion occurred, registers were:
ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
-- -- -- -- -- -- --
84 51 00 80 06 00 00 Error: ICRC, ABRT at LBA = 0x00000680 = 1664
Error 1 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 4222 hours (175 days + 22 hours)
When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.
After command completion occurred, registers were:
ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
-- -- -- -- -- -- --
84 51 00 00 00 00 00
SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
No self-tests have been logged. [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t]
SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
1 0 0 Not_testing
2 0 0 Not_testing
3 0 0 Not_testing
4 0 0 Not_testing
5 0 0 Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.
HDS721050CLA362 #2
Code:
smartctl 5.41 2011-03-16 r3296 [x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu-2.6.38-grml64] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-11 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net
=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family: Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000.C
Device Model: Hitachi HDS721050CLA362
Serial Number: JP1521HN058TDA
Firmware Version: JP2OA25C
User Capacity: 500.106.780.160 bytes
Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is: 8
ATA Standard is: ATA-8-ACS revision 4
Local Time is: Sun Dec 16 22:02:10 2012 CET
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled
=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status: (0x80) Offline data collection activity
was never started.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever
been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: ( 5065) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
No Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 84) minutes.
SCT capabilities: (0x003d) SCT Status supported.
SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
SCT Feature Control supported.
SCT Data Table supported.
SMART Error Log Version: 1
ATA Error Count: 8 (device log contains only the most recent five errors)
CR = Command Register [HEX]
FR = Features Register [HEX]
SC = Sector Count Register [HEX]
SN = Sector Number Register [HEX]
CL = Cylinder Low Register [HEX]
CH = Cylinder High Register [HEX]
DH = Device/Head Register [HEX]
DC = Device Command Register [HEX]
ER = Error register [HEX]
ST = Status register [HEX]
Powered_Up_Time is measured from power on, and printed as
DDd+hh:mm:SS.sss where DD=days, hh=hours, mm=minutes,
SS=sec, and sss=millisec. It "wraps" after 49.710 days.
Error 8 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 4099 hours (170 days + 19 hours)
When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.
After command completion occurred, registers were:
ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
-- -- -- -- -- -- --
10 51 00 00 00 00 00
Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- --------------------
37 ff 01 ee 57 38 ea 08 48d+06:59:39.094 SET MAX ADDRESS EXT
27 ff 00 ee 57 38 e0 08 48d+06:59:39.094 READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS EXT
37 ff 00 ee 57 38 ea 08 48d+06:59:38.338 SET MAX ADDRESS EXT
27 ff 01 00 00 00 e0 08 48d+06:59:38.338 READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS EXT
37 ff 01 ee 57 38 ea 08 48d+06:59:25.515 SET MAX ADDRESS EXT
Error 7 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 4099 hours (170 days + 19 hours)
When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.
After command completion occurred, registers were:
ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
-- -- -- -- -- -- --
10 51 00 00 00 00 00
Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- --------------------
37 ff 01 ee 57 38 ea 08 48d+06:59:25.515 SET MAX ADDRESS EXT
27 ff 00 ee 57 38 e0 08 48d+06:59:25.515 READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS EXT
37 ff 00 ee 57 38 ea 08 48d+06:59:24.760 SET MAX ADDRESS EXT
27 ff 01 2f 60 38 e0 08 48d+06:59:24.759 READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS EXT
29 00 01 2f 60 38 e0 08 48d+06:59:23.586 READ MULTIPLE EXT
Error 6 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 4099 hours (170 days + 19 hours)
When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.
After command completion occurred, registers were:
ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
-- -- -- -- -- -- --
10 51 00 00 00 00 00
Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- --------------------
37 ff 01 ee 57 38 ea 08 48d+06:05:36.990 SET MAX ADDRESS EXT
27 ff 00 ee 57 38 e0 08 48d+06:05:36.989 READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS EXT
37 ff 00 ee 57 38 ea 08 48d+06:05:36.234 SET MAX ADDRESS EXT
27 ff 01 00 00 00 e0 08 48d+06:05:36.233 READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS EXT
37 ff 01 ee 57 38 ea 08 48d+06:05:23.411 SET MAX ADDRESS EXT
Error 5 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 4099 hours (170 days + 19 hours)
When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.
After command completion occurred, registers were:
ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
-- -- -- -- -- -- --
10 51 00 00 00 00 00
Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- --------------------
37 ff 01 ee 57 38 ea 08 48d+06:05:23.411 SET MAX ADDRESS EXT
27 ff 00 ee 57 38 e0 08 48d+06:05:23.410 READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS EXT
37 ff 00 ee 57 38 ea 08 48d+06:05:22.655 SET MAX ADDRESS EXT
27 ff 01 2f 60 38 e0 08 48d+06:05:22.654 READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS EXT
29 00 01 2f 60 38 e0 08 48d+06:05:21.519 READ MULTIPLE EXT
Error 4 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 4098 hours (170 days + 18 hours)
When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.
After command completion occurred, registers were:
ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
-- -- -- -- -- -- --
10 51 00 00 00 00 00
Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- --------------------
37 ff 01 ee 57 38 ea 08 48d+05:08:03.520 SET MAX ADDRESS EXT
27 ff 00 ee 57 38 e0 08 48d+05:08:03.519 READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS EXT
37 ff 00 ee 57 38 ea 08 48d+05:08:02.764 SET MAX ADDRESS EXT
27 ff 01 00 00 00 e0 08 48d+05:08:02.763 READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS EXT
37 ff 01 ee 57 38 ea 08 48d+05:07:49.941 SET MAX ADDRESS EXT
SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error
# 1 Short offline Completed without error 00% 4304 -
# 2 Extended offline Aborted by host 90% 4304 -
SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
1 0 0 Not_testing
2 0 0 Not_testing
3 0 0 Not_testing
4 0 0 Not_testing
5 0 0 Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.
WD5002ABYS #1:
Code:
smartctl 5.41 2011-03-16 r3296 [x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu-2.6.38-grml64] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-11 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net
=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family: Western Digital RE3 Serial ATA family
Device Model: WDC WD5002ABYS-01B1B0
Serial Number: WD-WCASY2463961
Firmware Version: 02.03B02
User Capacity: 500.106.780.160 bytes
Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is: 8
ATA Standard is: Exact ATA specification draft version not indicated
Local Time is: Sun Dec 16 22:02:31 2012 CET
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled
=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status: (0x84) Offline data collection activity
was suspended by an interrupting command from host.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever
been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: ( 9480) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 112) minutes.
Conveyance self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 5) minutes.
SCT capabilities: (0x303f) SCT Status supported.
SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
SCT Feature Control supported.
SCT Data Table supported.
SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
No self-tests have been logged. [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t]
SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
1 0 0 Not_testing
2 0 0 Not_testing
3 0 0 Not_testing
4 0 0 Not_testing
5 0 0 Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.
WD5002ABYS #2:
Code:
smartctl 5.41 2011-03-16 r3296 [x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu-2.6.38-grml64] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-11 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net
=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family: Western Digital RE3 Serial ATA family
Device Model: WDC WD5002ABYS-01B1B0
Serial Number: WD-WCASY2464026
Firmware Version: 02.03B02
User Capacity: 500.107.862.016 bytes
Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is: 8
ATA Standard is: Exact ATA specification draft version not indicated
Local Time is: Sun Dec 16 22:02:34 2012 CET
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled
=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status: (0x82) Offline data collection activity
was completed without error.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever
been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: ( 9480) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 112) minutes.
Conveyance self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 5) minutes.
SCT capabilities: (0x303f) SCT Status supported.
SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
SCT Feature Control supported.
SCT Data Table supported.
SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
No self-tests have been logged. [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t]
SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
1 0 0 Not_testing
2 0 0 Not_testing
3 0 0 Not_testing
4 0 0 Not_testing
5 0 0 Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.
Die Platten sind soweit alle okay - keine hat umgemappte Sektoren. ABER: Die beiden Hitachis haben schon reichlich 4200 bzw. 4300 Stunden Laufzeit aufm Buckel, die beiden WDs sogar schon über 13300 Stunden. Bei der ersten WD siehts auch etwas wackelig mit einem Sektor aus (Current Pending Sector).
Wenn du an einer Platte Interesse hast, jag ich über die ein badblocks drüber - musst nur sagen ob bzw. welche Platten was für dich wären..
«Ich verstehe Ihre Frage so: Dass es Menschen gibt, die wünschen, dass ein solches OS als "Retro-OS" bezeichnet wird, ja? Mir ist nicht bekannt, dass solche Absichten bestehen, da HP-UX 9.x einfach ein altes OS ist. Niemand hat die Absicht, ein "Retro-OS" zu bauen.» Xaar, 2014
(16.12.2012 22:10)Xaar schrieb: Die Platten sind soweit alle okay - keine hat umgemappte Sektoren. ABER: Die beiden Hitachis haben schon reichlich 4200 bzw. 4300 Stunden Laufzeit aufm Buckel, die beiden WDs sogar schon über 13300 Stunden. Bei der ersten WD siehts auch etwas wackelig mit einem Sektor aus (Current Pending Sector).
Aua !_! Ganz schön viel Laufzeit
Sollte ne Zeit laufen als Haupt-PC-Festplatte für den Vadder
Danke schonmal für die Informationen und die Mühe
Hab nen Angebot 50€ 500GB kaum benutzt.
Da müsstest du mir Preislich jetzt was ordentliches bieten
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